You can find this Stark Lane Podcast episode on Spotify, YouTube, iHeartRadio, Amazon Music, Apple Podcasts, and anywhere else you enjoy podcasts.
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/29Aig5J3AIAFL2b3Apf3NA?si=Kvyxxo7dQF2FVPjY3oFCfw
YouTube: https://youtu.be/EohLYSUKu5o