You can find this Stark Lane Podcast episode on Spotify, YouTube, iHeartRadio, Amazon Music, Apple Podcasts, and anywhere else you enjoy podcasts.
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/03M07GX0Wh25kdH5stuoip?si=7LlQo1jLRTm93V6JloxjeA
YouTube: https://youtu.be/w3G_gQ38qnc